All are perfect, flawed, and "Xeno" in their own way. I am very familiar with the two games. They had their Moment, their little arc, and then that was that. Though it was created by Squaresoft, many of the game's key staff made the migration from that company to Monolith Soft. A fanpage based on Tetsuya Takahashi's magnum double-opus, Xenogears and Xenosaga. It's one thing it has in common with Xenosaga, actually. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I remember watching a youtube video saying how burnt out monolith soft was after completing the third game and I 100% see why. it's not spread out across the entire game. I haven't played Xenogears yet, but I've 100% completed all 3 xenosaga games. Though it was created by Squaresoft, many of the game's key staff made the migration from that company to Monolith Soft. It is in no way affiliated with Square-Enix Co. Ltd., Bandai-Namco, or Monolithsoft Inc. who owns the rights to the trademarks, characters, and stories. In my own subjective scale, Xenosaga is half as good as Xenogears. I thought Xenosaga was good. I saw a lot of combativeness between these two fandoms, especially some Xenogears fans. Grahf calls himself "The Seeker of Power" because Lacan was powerless. Shion is of this type of condition. That being said, if you prefer more lighthearted tales then you'll probably have a much better time with Grandia. [2] [7] As with Xenogears , Xenosaga was planned as a six-episode story, but was cut down to a trilogy due to various factors. I loved the crap out of Xenogears but I was never able to get myself to play Xenosaga for more than 5 hours whenever I would attempt it. It's why I always resent people who compare XAenogears to Neon Genesis Evangelion. That...did not happen. One game, one complete story and setting. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. And well, I've been postponing this grinding for ages. But the fact is they kinda just lnguish, contributing very little to the story. Might make another attempt very soon before the major onslaught of new titles in Spring. E.S. III and IV should have been the planet part of the story (corresponding to what is told and seen in Xenogears - Ep. Xenosaga does it over three games, and the quality of the games is not the same. Evangelion set out to undermine and subvert the conventions of its genre, Xenogars sought only to elevate them, to make stories about anime robot fights substantive and complex. Dinah. As much as I adore aFei and Elly, I feel like Shion is just a more profound and intriguing character. Everything in Xenogears clicks together. An interesting interview with creator Tetsuya Takahashi from February this year by the Japanese denfaminicogamer site has been translated by Lugalbanda, and while it is not specifically a Xenogears or Xenosaga interview, it is a general Tetsuya Takahashi interview that goes into some interesting stuff about Xenogears and his time at Square and so I've decided it belongs on the study … Fandom Apps Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Xenogears is really in it's own league as far as story goes. View my complete profile. Xenogears / Xenosaga universe Group Description This group includes Xenogears and Xenosaga games. The story is … [8] All share the same concept's and themes, even though some refuse to see it. But by and large the entire cast remains interesting and dynamic and relevant to the very end. They would not stop talking about how Xenosaga was a total failure of a follow-up to their beloved classic. Saga was self-sufficient. It was one of the first JRPG's I ever completed and it launched my lifelong love with Japanese media.I played Xenogears in 2005, getting it from a local GameStop, and I recently replayed the first disc with my more "mature" eyes. In Xenogears I loved the unique story and all the parts where you go around by foot, including the awesome combat system, and hated all the "gears" parts. Xenogears is a role-playing video game developed and published by Square for the PlayStation video game console.The debut entry in the wider Xeno franchise, it was released in Japan in February 1998, and in North America in October the same year. If you like one, you would probably like the other. The gameplay of Xenogears revolves around navigating 3D environments both on-foot and using humanoid mecha dubbed "Gears". And I don’t just mean dense with content, although that’s certainly true. I need to replay all four of these games. The only person who really doesn't get much is MOMO. We look into the possibility Monolithsoft is connecting their Xeno series on Crazy Connections today and the potential implications it brings. But I think, being as objective as it is possible to be, there are many areas Xenosaga is superior to Xenogears. The scope and ambition of Xenogears' story is just incredible. But Xenosaga 1 takes place something like 4,000 years before xenogears, so...yeah, not much shows up from xenogears, just the combat system and ether style magic really. To this day I still have not played Xenogears, but I revisit Xenosaga Episode 1 and 2 and PlayStation 2 every year or so (I don't own number 3 unfortunately). You'll be bombarded with Terms and backstories and whackiness and you will have no idea how any of it ties together. unit capable of transforming between a more traditional-looking craft and a more humanoid form that was constructed to work with KOS-MOS' systems. Flying around in the ship listening to that amazing music....the epic story....fuck I need to play it again. Seriously that 2nd game might actually be the worst JRPG i have ever played. Xenogears is one of my favorite games of all time, but it is severely unpolished. I think a fan of either should play both Gears and at least Saga 3 (watch compilation vids for the first 2 games). All of the games in the series ha… Xenosaga is consistently linear. I have never seen Macross but I have seen every Gundam that was produced at the time XG came out and I know the creators Tetsuya Takahashi and Soraya Saga are huge mecha fans and Xenogears is clearly a love letter to their favorite anime genre. plus there are a lot of great moments with the characters and places to explore and some cool iconic boss fights too. Study Guide This fan made website was created for the purpose of preserving information on Xenogears and Xenosaga. As for the weak second disc, the game is easily 50+ hours as it is. The series just got canned after 3, no clue why. U-DO dwells in the higher Upper Domain, and can observe mankind in the Lower Domain with its observation terminals, also called its \"eyes,\" Abel and Abel's Ark.U-DO is actually an energy from a higher dimension. A lot of the time in Xenogears you will be like "okay...what the hell does any of this have to do with the opening FMV?" We look into the possibility Monolithsoft is connecting their Xeno series on Crazy Connections today and the potential implications it brings. These are Japanese-style role-playing games (RPGs), notable for their complex storylines, giant robot combat, and usage of symbolic references to teachings and myths of Judaism and Christianity. Because of that very thing, as if turning her eyes away from death, Shion immersed herself in work to an abnormal degree. Based on experience, the dark feeling of the nothingness of death was controlling Shion's life. also Episode has THE greatest sword duels in the whole trilogy. 295 likes. Grahf (Graf in the original Japanese version) was a persona of Lacan that split off after he made contact with the Zohar five hundred years prior to the start of Xenogears. True, that is a fair point. Uneven as Xenogears turned out to be, Xenosaga Episode I proved to be an even more challenging love-it-or-hate-it proposition. Although it’s not directly related to Xenogears, Xenosaga was the true spiritual successor. Xenogears starts off a little more rural/fantasy like that dips into sci-fi. Neither game had a particularly compelling combat system but Saga had no idiotic horribly-implemented platforming and you could at least navigate through it. Eva ends in the most depressing way imaginable, to the point I wondered at Shinji rejecting Instrumentality. I'd like to hear what you all think. Is it disadvantageous for me to start just 3? E.S. I liked its long and slow cutscenes. Semajer. It's a beautiful puzzle which, when the final piece slides into place, makes you sit back and nod in appreciation at its genius. Xenosaga and Xenogears , especially Billy’s story, are packed with biblical references. … Xenogears is one of the most adult, mature RPGs I've ever played. Grahf calls himself "The Seeker of Power" because Lacan was powerless. Xenosaga Ep. But saying that, ALL Xeno games are good. Episode 1 is largely a game divided into laying the groundwork for every member of our party. It's great, but Xenosaga is just...so good. It came to be that it gives her strength in a realistic meaning. Well, I think at this point a lot of that antagonism has faded. By turning her eyes away from death and hiding her head in the work that was before her eyes, she was able to forget the feeling of nothingness. - How would you rate this series compared to all the A+ RPGs you've played? 293 likes. The Xeno games, Tetsuya Takahashi’s pet project and meta-series, are remembered as dense video games. Home; Merits of these works; The History of Xenogears; The History of Xenosaga; Future of the series; Xenogears and Xenosaga mirroring; The Play's interview with Monolithsoft (1999) By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. One of the best protagonists in JRPG history. the only slog was the 'Sakura' dungeon parts, but been through worst parts in mainstream jrpgs that get their tedious parts overlooked. Please do not put Xenosaga information in this timeline, it should remain a separate timeline. The Xeno title has been repeated throughout the series: in an interview concerning Xenoblade Chronicles, director Tetsuya Takahashisaid that the prefix had become a symbol referencing the previous works of Monolith Soft. In my own subjective scale, Xenosaga is half as good as Xenogears. Xenoblade is the more complete package among the three by modern standards and best in that regard. Xenoblade vs Xenogears vs Xenosaga; User Info: Link01588. Most of the world/universe is dead but you don't feel like it because the game's have such happy endings. Both of these works have this existential theme and are centered on the problem of living in an imperfect world. Dinah A complex, high tech E.S. I can't compare the stories, but I can comfortably say what I played of Xenosaga was much better as a game in general. For example, to account forShion's behavior, the writers of Xenosaga officially explained her personality thusly: According to Enneagram personality classification, Shion is classified in her behavior aspect with a type-7 characteristic (talent-rich, impulsive, extreme, high-spirited{?}). I think it's a shame that Monolith has gone so downhill since then though. I've never liked Gear combat at all but I used to say at least on foot battles were fun. However, the years between Xenogears and Xenoblade Chronicles gave birth to another series: Xenosaga. episode 2 a vital bridge between episode 1 and 3 and introduces key characters that are essential in episode 3 too. pus the final dungeon is SO EPIC. I've got to say the mini games were the best. You go from one ship / dungeon / event to another, with the occasional ability to explore an individual ship or area. I left off somewhere in part 3, but that was back when it came out, so at some point I'll just play the whole trilogy again. They were just some super advanced race on Earth in the distant past and that's it. It is the only known craft in the Xenosaga universe capable of entering and exiting hyperspace without having to interact with the U.M.N. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Both games are fun and I enjoy them both. Not her and some guy, just her. No, Episode III was made with the possibility of continuation, it was that game's popularity that decided if the series would continue, not Episode II's failure. You just sold me on just playing Xenosaga over Xenogears (as I only have time to play one in the foreseeable future). Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Although I think even there they have pretty big differences. VI of Xenogears according to PW) Critical Distance is proud to present this Critical Compilation of the Xeno games — Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade — curated by Brian Crimmins.. A subreddit for Japanese Role Playing Games from past and present. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Only issue is that you can only attempt the mini games in a small portion of the late game. Really ballsy too. Men in robot anime are supposed to be assertive and boisterous. Xenosaga keeps everyone relevant and interesting with a lot of interparty dialogue and subplots that each of our heroes pursues for the entire trilogy. Over 20 years later, Xenogears is still heralded as a classic, receiving concerts and tie-in events with various games. I've only played the first 2 xenosaga's though, so I can't say what 3 is like, but here's what I thought of the first 2: Sorry to double post, I was juuuust over the message limit meh: You can't spell slaughter without laughter! I've been thinking about Xenosaga so much for the past few months... Really want to play them again (last time was back when they released). The only Xenosaga I've played is Ep. Thank you for this post, definitely adds an additional reason to play. Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht is a role-playing video game developed by Monolith Soft and published by Namco for the PlayStation 2; the game was released in 2002 in Japan and 2003 in North America.It is the first entry in the Xenosaga trilogy, and forms part of the wider Xeno metaseries. Reasons for this are as simple as Xenogears came from Squaresoft fresh on the heels of the biggest JRPG ever, Final Fantasy VII. The third game is the best Takahashi game ever IMO. That may sound bad, but Xenogears is 3 times better than FFVII, so that would make the Xenosaga trilogy 1.5 times as good as FFVII. So I played Xenosaga Episode 1 back in 2003. I even loved the combat in Episode II that most people seem to despise. For Shion, life was something that should be called "a state that differs from death". They exist just to account for certain of the Plot Items and that's it. It is the quality of having a single mind that makes U-DO's collective far more powerful than the human col… No matter how deeply one wished to escape death, no matter how deeply those around him also wanted not to die, death mercilessly visits. In this Xenogears review, SuperDerek examines the PlayStation classic, Xenogears! But at the same time I feel a lot of the stuff about the "Ancient Civilization" that just happened to make all these magic artifacts is pretty badly handled. Tetsuya Takahashi created Xenosaga as a spiritual successor to the Square -produced Xenogears, for which he founded Monolith Soft with help from Namco; multiple Xenogears staff returned, including co-writer Soraya Saga. Xenosaga Episode 1 took a lot of inspiration from Xenogears right down to having big, ugly dungeons with no music. When you strip away the Kung-fu robots and ancient conspiracies and all that stuff, Xenogears is a remarkably straightforward narrative about our hero getting the girl. The fact that Xenosaga couldn’t get its hooks into me is enough for me to make my decision. 2 the most not because of the combat but rather the character dynamics. I also think Xenosaga was actively trying to be more subversive with its characters. Miang is a great villain but Elly, the Elements, Margie and Emeralda are all defined by their devotion to some man. It would've been probably 80+ hours if everything on disc 2 were fully fleshed out. A big, BIG difference between Xenosaga and Xenogears is how much attention Xenosaga gives to its cast. while its E.S. combat was dumbed down from 3 to 2 mechs at once, it is a double edged sword that works in its favor having some unique mechanics the others dont have. It lacks balance, Gear combat is dull, and most of the cast are unnecessary in both story and gameplay. There is a comment in this very topic calling Xenogears a classic and Xenosaga fanfiction LOL. I actually really like Xenosaga Ep. I saved the items until the 2nd to last final boss (not counting the final final boss). Member. D&D Beyond As far as respective timelines go, Xenogears was the best in its respective time. "Xenogears" uses 3D maps, and if it had been 2D we wouldn't have been able to move the camera freely, effects would have to been processed in 3D anyway, and so for those reasons "Xenogears"' engine itself was suited to have cutscenes that played in real-time, as opposed to it being pre-rendered. And the key is, they maintain this focus all the way to the end. It’s not about them subverting or fulfilling expectations. Xenoblade (Otherwise known as Xenoblade Chronicles) is the spiritual successor to Xenosaga and Xenogears developed by Monolith Software, and is a Nintendo exclusive. Planned it, have all three, love XG (beat it over a decade ago and watched a walkthrough about two years ago, story is as incredible as ever, read the Perfect Works book too), started the first part, but didn’t continue after the first two hours. Later still, the Xeno title was described as a means of distinguishing Takahashi's work, phrased by the interviewer as a "director's signature". Xenosaga expanded so much. I got nothing against any of these characters and I actually like Rico. [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]. Xenosaga meanwhile was marketed as the Final Fantasy Killer. Xenosaga Ep. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Now let's talk gameplay. Critical Distance is proud to present this Critical Compilation of the Xeno games — Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade — curated by Brian Crimmins.. Thanks! also who would wanna miss out on some of the greatest scenes and moments ever, like the highway chase, the motorcycle, Dinah's debut, and much more? The Xenosaga trilogy boast similar gameplay to Xenogears, although the balance of story and gameplay underwent drastic revisions for the second game. There's also a great mecca battle in one of the 3 saga games that even allows you to play local multiplayer. Xenosaga 1 felt like a taste of Gears, 2 felt even less substantial, and 3 felt like the follow up to Gears I had always wanted. The following is a timeline for Xenogears, adapted from a fan's translation of Perfect Works with other events from other sources included. The Xenosaga series, which is comprised of three main episodes that were all released for the PlayStation 2, was a spiritual successor to the 1998 PlayStation classic Xenogears. It is a collective consciousness with a single mind, unlike the human collective consciousness with individual hive minds. The Xeno games, Tetsuya Takahashi’s pet project and meta-series, are remembered as dense video games. Ive still never been able to recapture the feeling I got from the epic adventure that was Xenogears. Another plus for Xenogears, at least to me, is that it is at its heart a love story. While XG is by no means a ripoff of NGE, Xenosaga I feel takes some inspiration from NGE in how it tries to be more radical. So while I have full intent to play Xenogears, I doubt it will be able to top the enjoyment I got from Xenosaga. The RPG series follows the story of a group of characters as they fight for the safety of the planet. That said, several elements between the game worlds are related, including the Zohar. They each get their own villain and final resolution which is why I love Disk 2 of Xenosaga Episode III so much. The card game in #2 is better than triple triad (or at least more in-depth). Shion, who saw the death of her parents at a very young age and saw the death of a loved-one a few years ago, felt that her own life was always right next- door to death. Xenogears is a role-playing video game developed and published by Square for the PlayStation video game console.The debut entry in the larger Xeno franchise, it was released in Japan in February 1998, and in North America in October the same year. Xenogears is certainly better than Xenosaga Episode I and especially II, but Episode III was one of the PS2’s best JRPGs and I think the argument could go either way there. I think Xenosaga tried its best to do this and Episode 3 deserves to be commended for all it achieved. A fanpage based on Tetsuya Takahashi's magnum double-opus, Xenogears and Xenosaga. I loved it, I really did, but I rushed the beggining too much, I'm severely underleveled, and now I have to grind to not get my ass handed by mobs. In this Xenogears review, SuperDerek examines the PlayStation classic, Xenogears! When people hear the words "love story" they think of sappy slice of life stuff but the fact is, love stories come in all shapes and sizes. Xenosaga while finished, is a slog to get to the one worthwhile game in the series, the 3rd. Pages. The Xenosaga and Xenogears wiki that anyone in the Milky Way galaxy can edit! Xenogears is much better than Xenosaga 1 and 2. Xenogears and Xenosaga Study Guide Preservation of information and interviews regarding this epic series. Grandia is a phenomenal game with one of the best battle systems in RPG history. However one wishes for life, death visits like an unavoidable fate. Can you link it or recommend one you like? The gameplay of Xenogears revolves around navigating 3D environments both on-foot and using humanoid mecha dubbed "Gears". Xenogears is unfinished and still regarded as a masterpiece. Another plus for Xenogears, at least to me, is that it is at its heart a love story. KOS-MOS (Japanese: コスモス) (recursive acronym for Kosmos Obey Strategical Multiple Operation System) is a fictional character from the Xenosaga role-playing video game series by Monolith Soft and Bandai Namco Entertainment.KOS-MOS also appears as a major character in the anime Xenosaga: The Animation and in several crossover video games. Does it still hold up? ... Just in case Xenosaga Freaks wasn't enough for Xenosaga fanatics to chew on, Namco has announced that a Limited Edition release of Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Boese will be available. Xenogears is hands and feet above Xenosaga. I love Mitsuda to pieces but perhaps it was the fact they got the London Philharmonic Orchestra to do EP1's soundtrack that made them have less music than they should, What music they had was positively brilliant but the fact remains EP3 had far more awesome music as each town and dungeon had its own track this time around. It's why I always resent people who compare XAenogears to Neon Genesis Evangelion. It mostly did, because of Xenoblade and how different - and for many in not a good way - it is. I love romance but I need my romance to be packaged with big, epic fantasy storylines. Xenogears does it all in one game. The above contains topics relating to Xenosaga, Xenosaga: The Unofficial Site, and in some cases Xenogears and Xenoblade Chronicles depending on relevancy as it pertains to Xenosaga. "We created Monolith Soft in October 1999. Lost count of how much time I wasted on the card game with friends but I loved the combat system. Its not just its HORRIFIC combat its also deadweight on the 3rd forcing it to spend time fixing its plot mistakes all while answering nothing from the 1st, of which you will have many many questions. Fandom Apps Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Sales of Episode 2 made Xenosaga into a three-game series instead of a six-game series. VI of Xenogears according to PW) https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1261404814694658050. Which Xenogears walk through did you watch? The Xenosaga series, which is comprised of three main episodes that were all released for the PlayStation 2, was a spiritual successor to the 1998 PlayStation classic Xenogears. Its good space opera. And I love Xenosaga 1. Well, I think at this point a lot of that antagonism has faded. The Xenosaga and Xenogears wiki that anyone in the Milky Way galaxy can edit! I realized after replaying Xengoears recently that its battle system is really, really bad. Xenogears/Xenosaga Discussion. But for me it’s no contest. Xenosaga … I keep trying to emulate xenosaga I (one of my favorite games) but keep getting a bug where it freezes in the equip menu. I played them a lot growing up but not so much recently. He needs to revisit it and finish his epic, at some point, and he is even willing to. My big gaming regret of this year is that I didn’t play through Xenosaga. Enjoy!I do not own Xenosaga or any of its music and characters. Uhh well regulars here might know more about this, but the way I remember it was that xenogears was originally part 5 in a 6-part series, and xenosaga 1-3 are eps 1-3. An interesting interview with creator Tetsuya Takahashi from February this year by the Japanese denfaminicogamer site has been translated by Lugalbanda, and while it is not specifically a Xenogears or Xenosaga interview, it is a general Tetsuya Takahashi interview that goes into some interesting stuff about Xenogears and his time at Square and so I've decided it belongs on the study … In very serious times, they are convinced that they have been "robbed", and even become as if greedily wanting everything. Presumably the X in "Project X" was always symbolic of the Xeno-prefix, and that Tetsuya Takahashi intended to name it something as close to "Xenogears" as possible.It probably did not take long for Takahashi to settle on the "Xenosaga" title. The more they act and the more they search, the more they become unable to be satisfied. II, III, IV and V of Xenogears according to PW) Xenosaga Ep. That said, several elements between the game worlds are related, including the Zohar. The PS1 is sort of the golden age of JRPG's to many. At an unhealthy state such as this, they become self-centered, and in order t satisfy their own desires, they may even make violent demands from others. Main article: E.S. In a healthy state, type-7s show interest in everything around them; they are active, and they can yield spectacular results. V and VI should have been the future part of the story (corresponding to what comes after Xenogears - Ep. on the chance that the industry is watching. Remember when xenosaga was supposed to have like six games? Many people have wondered why Maria stays around, why Billy stays around, why Rico even exists. 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